Comment by Els de Groen (Archive) on May 10, 2011 at 22:25

 

Sarenge, dear all!

I am happy Marko is also there now, as the Formula 1 activities by the Artists' Initiative are his idea. Only it was not posted in a very prominent corner. In order to improve our communication I established this group to work out Marko's idea that was adopted by all of us. Now it should become our common responsibility.

For this reason I regret that Marko has the impression that I am claiming his idea. I am embracing and adopting it, as it is en excellent idea. I also want to stress that we should not distinguish members on "my" network and people "I" need from "outside" to prepare for Hungary. Our site is big enough to host all people who combat antitziganism and use the many advantages of this interactive site. Togetherness, Khetanes, is a condition to succeed!

Devlesa,

Els

Comment by Mr. Valery Novoselsky on May 12, 2011 at 14:18

It is a pitty that we can not work together in one team on this project.

 

But I hope that we shall not create the problem s for one another when we follow our alternative agendas for Budapest.

Comment by Glenda Bailey-Mershon on May 12, 2011 at 18:50

Yes, rather than arguing, let us agree to disagree and go on with our work on alternative projects. It will truly take "khetanes" to bring our Roma out of crisis in Hungary and elsewhere.

Comment by Lukáš Houdek on May 12, 2011 at 20:16

Guys, what is it happening here? It seems really strange to me as it shows again and again the same things - how people are not able to cooperate and how they try to play on their own sand. I do not know. I am bit dissapointed. I think if some of us dont feel like continue, they should leave.

Well, Marco, I do not really understand, what you mean, but if you mean the F1 thing was your idea and we took it, yes, i think you are right. But is that problem? If you see it as problem ,then we should probably find some other action to avoid this as this is really tiredning battles that i have really no energy to take part in. If it is so, lets do some event in hungary - does not have to be on F1... my opinion...

 

Hopefully we will figure this tention out!

 

Lukas

PS: I am now in Kosovo and after what i see and listen to here this seems to me bit childish. We should be compact group going after one thing as we have to possibilities to do so.

Comment by Mr. Valery Novoselsky on May 12, 2011 at 20:59

Yes, Lukas, we can elaborate another kind of event for Budapest, while Marko will work on F1.

Comment by Els de Groen (Archive) on May 12, 2011 at 22:21

 

In the early 1990s Czech President Vaclav Havel stated that the plight of Roma would become the Litmus Test for Europe's democracy. Twenty years later we witness paramilitary marches and training camps, besieged towns, evacuations of women and children, scared of neo-Nazis and... pubs and cafés closed for Roma customers!

Is this Europe in 1936 or the EU in 2011? I propose to link artist's activities in Budapest to those in Prague and in Bucharest. We could film and make a documentary. Under the new tab "Suggestion Box" I proposed to prepare an artistic presentation of the current state of affairs. We can have live performances and debates and recordings.

Comment by Eszter Pásztor on May 12, 2011 at 23:32

Dear Friends,

I really don't understand what the problem is - I've been trying to follow the discussion, but still don't get it.

The situation in Hungary is very bad. The new government's anti-poor measures resulted in a roughly 30% deterioration in per capita income among the poorest (roughly around 1 million people in Hungary, of whom about 5-600,000 may be Roma) in nominal terms since last year . Bódvalenke is among them - there, the income level is about half of the absolute poverty level established by the World Bank (2 dollars a day). This is starvation level. But not only the Roma are hit - and politicians (the neonazi Jobbik with the silent assistance of the Government) have turned the anger of the non-Roma poor against the the Roma. And most of the better-off just don't want to know, or are fightened by the images dire poverty and all that goes with it. Also, many believe that the problem is so huge and so out-of-hand that it cannot be solved...In this situation I believe what is very much needed is positive messages about and by the Roma.

On July 2nd we'll have our 2nd Dragon Festival in Bodvalenke. The idea is that we invite really famous Roma musicians, dancers and a Roma theatre group to improvise in front of the monumental paintings of Roma artists - to create a Roma "Gesamtkunstwerk" (there are lots of theor things as well, but this is the main idea). This event commanded a very great deal of media attention already last year; this year, we want it to be seen and heard by even more people.

I am offering you this event to use (maybe, as a forerunner to any activities during the Formula 1 race).(The picture above was a taken at last year's event, with a village women's choir singing a lament in front of the mural devoted to the memory of the victims of the serial murder against Roma people.) The Dragon Festival is largely about beauty and joy - but also about the current day drama and it is an exclamation mark... Use the very strong visual power of the event. I am not a politician, nor a PR expert, but I believe the event can be put to very good use in our common cause.

Please consider it.

 

Comment by Glenda Bailey-Mershon on May 12, 2011 at 23:41

Easter, your description is very moving and makes me want to attend the Dragon Festival but also reminds me why we are coming together here on this page. You have given what we all need: insight.

Comment by Glenda Bailey-Mershon on May 12, 2011 at 23:43

Sorry, Eszter, I tried to spell your name right, but my fingers tripped. It is a beautiful name, from a great queen.

Comment by Eszter Pásztor on May 13, 2011 at 0:01

Thank you, Glenda :)) And please, do come!

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