Comment by roxana marin on March 17, 2011 at 14:33

ciuin,
can you write me at roxanarmarin@yahoo.com for a bit of coaching on the research you are talking about - i have loads and loads of time here in santiago, and i can easily research the european side of the scene. i just need a bit of coaching:) thanks, r.

Comment by Casimire Williamsii on March 18, 2011 at 0:52

@ Ciuin, I have been around Hollywood people a great deal during my life. My step-father was an actor and I worked at the studios for quite a while. They are always looking for a new cause to support, it is good for their image and a tax write off. Also helps them justify making thirty million dollars (or so) for just one picture! If they can't find a new cause then they adopt a baby from Thailand or Nigeria or some such place. That is the cold reality of the situation, not the way I think. I am very fond of talking to all of you about the Civil Rights Leaders back in the day. Cesar Chavez was very effective because he enlisted celebrities to his cause. Eventually even Robert Kennedy marched with him. You can write blogs and F/B pages for years...but...if we could gain the support of someone like Johnny Depp then the world would take notice. I know this is shallow and superficial, but that is the way socieity is. But actors and sports figures are what they hold up as idols. Great teachers or intellectuals, they are not important to these clones out there. That is the sad but true reality of the situation.

Cesar Chavez www.ufw.org

 

Comment by Niko Rergo on March 18, 2011 at 9:26

OK for evribodi an'ol. 'ts Niko. High five! Know hwat? I djust wanna kvetch a bit: u guiz out Stats cunna hev props. ts rad t'read UA, WG, SAG, F/B, 'big shot' but...
Well, excuse me. Not everybody in our network is native English speaker and has wide and enough background knowledge of other countries.
My apologies again, Niko

Comment by Casimire Williamsii on March 18, 2011 at 14:05

WG is writers guild and SAG is Screen Actors Guild. UA United Artists.

Comment by Mr. Valery Novoselsky on March 18, 2011 at 15:30

Dear Els,

 

here is the pack of International Media addresses.

 

Best,

ValeryInternational%20Media%20Addresses.doc

Comment by Casimire Williamsii on March 18, 2011 at 16:27

There has been a brutal genocide being applied to the Romani People since the Inquisition. It still continues to this day...Be it a genocide directed towards language and culture, or the lead mine "death camps" of Kosovo. The first Inquisition was started in 1184 and it has been nearly 65 years since the end of WWII. The whole thing has been ongoing, it just takes different forms. Today there are Romani People being led into led mine death camps. So this Inquisition and it's brutal genocide is being applied to us all over the world. Right at this very moment in real time! It can take many guises, such as the episode of Criminal Minds TV show that had Ciuin so (rightly) exasperated. There are Neo Nazi Skinhead groups all over Europe, firebombing and murdering. France and much of the EU is declining into Fascism. It is very evident here in the States. That is the way "Euroman" has wanted it for a long time. The interesting thing is that they tend to destroy what they need the most. We pretty much wiped out the Native American Culture. They were excellent stewards of the land and now things are so polluted, the planet is nearly beyond the point of no return. Romani & Traveler people have an excellent ethic order, that has served us well for hundreds of years. The world badly needs what we have to offer. I think about all this as I have been following all these Romani web-sites, blogs, F/B pages, on line publications (including Valerie's) And I find it all quite heart breaking and I feel has led to some depression thinking about it too much. Valerie and all of you have done an exemplary job of pointing out what the problems are and all the brutality that Roma are being subjected to. I sincerely admire the dedication it must take to keep a commentary such as that running for such a long time. I am very proud of all of you! Takes a lot of heart.

Now I'm just a metal smith here in Portland Oregon living with a couple of cats. I'm not all that sharp and got bad marks in school. But even from my perspective Romani need to organize, we're a very easy target and that is what Fascists thrive on. They need someone to blame all of socieities problems on. Same thing happens here in the States, we have a huge drug war going on and Arizona blame Mexican Immigrants for "our own chickens that are coming home to roost"! I do not have any answers at all and I have few new ideas. Jewish people and Romani were blamed for the Black Plague in Europe and it has been a pattern ever since.  But it is painfully obvious even to me that we have waited WAY to long to get orginized. I am not blaming the victim nor do I expect anyone to adhere to my time table. But good people there is a very brutal genocide being applied to our people at this very moment! What the hell else do we need to point out the urgency of the situation. That is the reality of the situation. All I can think of to do is look to the history of the Civil Rights Movement. Mahatma Gandhi influenced Martin Luther King Jr. Cesar Chavez made things better for for migrant farm workers that had no rights in this country. The American Indian Movement helped disenfranchised Native American's gain a lot towards soverignty. The situations disenfranchised people face in this country closely parallel what the Romani People are going through today in Europe. I only have one message for all! We're very very overdue to get organized. It is never too late and there is always hope. But all I can suggest to all (and this goes for you too Valerie) is that you redirect some of that energy that you are using to point out what the problems are, and start doing something pro-active. Organization & Solidarity are the only way any Civil Rights are going to be realized. You have a very excellent infrastructure in place in the forms of Blogs, E-Mail publications, Web-pages, and social networks. Use them to get organized, I challenge you to start putting up some posts that announce that the International Romani Anti Defamation League is now forming. I hear some of you have as many as 20K followers. That way we can begin to have a voice and can do something to make wrong doers accountable. Press packs can be sent out to those outside our community in order to gain support. The possibilities are endless! That is all I can suggest, I am just one person. I've had quite a lot of surgeries the past few years and I'm finding I'm getting weak physically. Perhaps I am deluded or a dreamer. But that is the way I see things from this vantage point. Civil Rights have seldom if ever been arbitrarily been handed to anyone!       

Love , hope, peace and chairity to All Romani & Traveler People

Organize, Solidarity, & Unity

Casimire

 

 

Comment by Casimire Williamsii on March 18, 2011 at 17:11

Els, I live in a particle board tower...that's a joke! C

Comment by Mr. Valery Novoselsky on March 19, 2011 at 12:52

Take action for the housing rights of Roma in Rome!

http://www.amnesty.org/en/appeals-for-action/roma-children-and-thei...

Comment by Casimire Williamsii on March 19, 2011 at 15:14

@Valery, If the IRADL was truly a reality then we would not have to solely depend on outside organizations such as Amnesty International. I'm sure they are excellent, but do you always want to depend on those from outside the community? IRADL would have more clout when bringing matters to their attention. If organized and have solidarity then nothing is impossible? 

Comment by Ciuin Ferrin on March 19, 2011 at 15:55

We are in our infancy here. We have no power, nothing. We have dreams and ideals, but no athority to do anything. Realistically, it will be some time before we can do what they have done. Brava for their efforts. I eagery await the day the IRADL will take such steps.

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